From Baldr Odinson's blog today:
Penny said...
The point of the post was that America is providing the world, Al Qaeda included, with high-capacity ammunition and that this is all done for the sake of money over the lives of innocent people.
The question of armed police officers is a subject for another day.
The Second Amendment has become a marketing tool for the gun lobby. Americans pay the price in a body count every day and now Norway has added bodies to the altar of the nra.
Breivik and Loughner armed themselves with ammunition from the U.S. We should ban the sale and transfer of all high-capacity ammunition as well as the possession of high-capacity ammunition.
Ms. Penny, I would like to point out a few things. Take a look at my blog banner and you'll see what is called, collectively, ammunition. The unit of ammunition is the cartridge, or round. It consists of four parts: bullet, case, powder and primer. The gun's firing pin hits the shock-sensitive primer, which contains a tiny amount of high explosive and sends a stream a sparks through the flash hole of the case, igniting the powder to create high pressure gas which propels the bullet through the bore of the barrel.
To call ammunition "high-capacity" is therefore meaningless. It's sort of like saying "high horsepower gasoline." You could forgive a three year old for doing it, but it's an embarassing mistake for a gun ban activist to make three times in one comment.
It is my understanding that the Norwegian killer bought his ammunition locally, not from the US. In your original blog post that I kindly corrected, you said that the US exported the American made Glock to Norway, then you deleted that and said the US exported "magazine-clips" (whatever those are) to Norway, and now you're claiming the US exported 9mm ammunition to Norway. Which is it? Do you understand the differences between a gun, magazine and ammunition? I'm not sure you do.
In your comment above, I'm guessing - and maybe I'm wrong - that you mean to write "high-capacity magazine," which would begin to make sense, though there's no meaningful distinction between high-capacity and low-capacity mags. My 8-round .45 caliber 1911 magazines are no more or less deadly than my 18-round Glock magazines. It takes two seconds for a shooter to load a new mag.
By the way, a magazine is a tube with a spring that feeds the ammunition in an autoloading pistol. I shouldn't have assumed you knew that. You should take the time to learn about the things you want to ban.
My question to you, Penny, is what could you possibly mean by "high-capacity ammunition?" I would really love for you to describe what you think it is. Comments here, unlike on Baldr's blog, are unmoderated - anyone can speak up without censorship - so please take a second to respond.
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This is just too great. Anti-gun troll Laci the Dog responded to Penny's comment...
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This is just too great. Anti-gun troll Laci the Dog responded to Penny's comment...
- Penny, I don't disagree with you, but I would warn you to be very careful what you say as a more experienced activist in the gun control movement.... Baldur knows where to find me if you need help.
This is basically Laci's way of telling Penny she went full retard with her comment.
Laci's pretty hard-up for brains himself.
ReplyDeleteBut he's for gun control, so I repeat myself.
Common tactics when losing a debate include changing the subject and ad hominem attacks. M. MA (gender unknown) has done both with my post.
ReplyDeleteRegardless of what you call the ammunition used, these people are still quite dead. Dead means not alive. No longer among the living. All due to a seriously mentally ill person buying ammunition from the United States. All abetted by the nra and other components of the gun lobby.
The Federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 should be reinstated and include a ban on the possession, sale or transfer of "high capacity ammunition feeding device" (reference HR 308, 2011).
Thanks for posting my views twice.
Perhaps she meant one of those big bottle magnum rounds--.338 Lapua or .300 WinMag. Those suckers hold a lot of powder. . .
ReplyDeleteCommon tactics when losing a debate include the use of media buzz-words such as "high capacity", without an understanding of definition.
ReplyDeleteHow do I know you lack understanding of the definition? It's because there isn't a clear definition and you'd know that if you would simply take the time to educate yourself on that which you fear.
Good grief...I'm new to this topic and I can smell the full-retard from 1500 miles.
Razz
Common tactics when losing a debate include the use of media buzz-words such as "high capacity", without an understanding of definition.
ReplyDeleteHow do I know you lack understanding of the definition? It's because there isn't a clear definition and you'd know that if you would simply take the time to educate yourself on that which you fear.
Good grief...I'm new to this topic and I can smell the full-retard from 1500 miles.
Razz